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Is Calgary the Right Fit for Pacioretty?

December 21, 2017

By Grant McCagg

When the Habs are outside of the playoffs at ANY point in an NHL season there are always calls for management to “blow it up” and do a complete rebuild.

Many suggest Price and Weber should be dealt because the thinking is that they would bring the most in return. This is, of course, true. Why? Because they stand a very good chance of being elite NHLers for the next five years or more, and in Price’s case, perhaps even another decade, and that is exactly why you don’t deal them.

When one projects Montreal’s roster over the next five years, there is one legitimate top-pairing defenceman in the organization, and that is Weber. Same goes with Price in nets; there are no guarantees that any of the other goalies will be elite starters. Why deal two players that the club could spend the next few years in a fruitless attempt to replace?

Habs fans need to stop bawlin’ for Dahlin

 

The “All in for Dahlin” sentiment would have made sense in 1993 when there was no draft lottery, but there are no guarantees that if you finish dead last that you’ll get the top pick. In fact…the odds are against it, and there is even a decent chance that the team that is the league’s worst won’t end up with Adam Boqvist. Beside…NHL players have pride and never play to lose; even if you “gutted” this team the odds are good that it won’t finish behind Arizona and Buffalo.

Filip Zadina would be a nice player to have on the club, but do you sacrifice your only legitimate starting goalie and number one defenceman to ensure that you are bad enough to get him? There are no guarantees he’ll be any better in the NHL than a forward picked in the 7-10 range.

The sensible approach for Habs GM Marc Bergevin, if the club ends up being sellers near the deadline, is to deal players who after this season stand a good chance of having declining value, and the players who best suit that description would be Alzner, Montoya, Pacioretty and Plekanec, and to a lesser extent Benn, Petry, Schlemko, and Shaw.

There has been a lot of talk about Galchenyuk being dealt, but right now when his value is at an all-time low would not be the best time. It would be wisest to ride it out this season and hope that he can improve and figure a few things out in regards to the sacrifices he needs to make to be the best player possible and reach his vast potential.

Pacioretty is the prime piece to be moved while he still has more than a year left on a contract that most agree was one of the better bargains of the past few years. Slumping or not, Max’s deal is one teams will find attractive, and there will always be clubs out there who think they can break him out of his slump. Often a change of scenery can do wonders, and put with a proven offensive centerman for the first time in his career, it’s not inconceivable that Pacioretty could once again find his scoring touch.

There is no shortage of possible suitors, and ideally, the Habs look to get back a top-three defenceman or top-two center in return. If that’s out of the question, the Habs will certainly at the very least want a defenceeman or center with top-two potential, perhaps both.

There has been some chatter recently that the Calgary Flames have been inquiring about Pacioretty, and that would seem to make some sense as the Flames are a club in need of some goal scoring on the wing. Max would look pretty good beside Sean Monahan and Johnny Gaudreau on the first line, and since the Habs are facing the Flames tomorrow and Bergevin and Brad Treliving could be chatting face-to-face – let’s explore such a trade scenario.

The key forward return in such a deal would likely be Mark Jankowski, an up-and-coming young center with size who is just now finding his way at the NHL level and a former first-round pick of the flames. A deal involving Jankowski would almost certainly include another young prospect/and or draft picks if the Flames hope to pick up one of the most productive wingers of the past half decade.

Ideally, the Habs would like to fill their two major needs in one deal even if it would mean having to wait on the return as it may involve a prospect that is not yet NHL ready.

A deal centering around Jankowski and Adam Fox in exchange for Pacioretty and Plekanec would most certainly intrigue the Canadiens, but would Calgary be willing to part with two of its most coveted young players?

Sam Bennett’s recent hot streak and the drafting of Juuso Valimaki last June make Fox and Jankowski more expendable than they were a year ago. Calgary is in a “win-now mode” with its defence core and goaltending and is hoping to garner support for a new building. Club President Brian Burke has always been one who wants to go for the gusto if history has taught us anything, so it would not shock me if those were the names being dangled if the teams are indeed talking.

The question would be whether the Flames would be reticent to give up so much promise in that deal. Fox has the smarts/puck skills to run an NHL power play some day, so would they be willing to part with him?

The thing is that the Flames have a strong young defence corps as it is with Dougie Hamilton and Valimaki among others…if any club besides Anaheim/Carolina has the defence depth to part with such an asset it might be the Flames.

The Flames get the big, productive winger for two playoff runs or more in Pacioretty they were hoping to get in Jagr on a temporary basis, and a veteran center to check the many top-end centers Calgary faces every game in the western conference in Plekanec.

The Habs going forward they would have three young pieces to mould into top-two centers in Jankowski, Drouin and Ryan Poehling. The runner-up could play a top-six role on the wing down the road as Jankowski is versatile and can also play on the wing, much like Drouin.

Fox would give the Habs a future power-play quarterback that has been missing since Subban was dealt, and a good bet to vie for a top-three position on the blueline that was lost with the trading of Mikhail Sergachev. Fox is undersized and not the fastest blueliner by any means, so there would be work to do before he was ready to assume such a role, but certainly his smarts and puck skills are at a level that no defenceman in the Canadiens’ system can match.

All of this is pure speculation of course, and the odds of anyone ever “guessing” the possible pieces in such a large trade scenario rarely, if ever, come close. It’s much more likely that only one of the two Flames mentioned would ever be involved in such a deal for Pacioretty.

You start going through teams and who might be interested in dealing for Pacioretty though, and the list is not a short one. Many argue that the Habs shouldn’t deal him….but it’s not working any more, and things may indeed only get worse, and his value only fades.

Pacioretty’s departure opens up an opportunity for Nikita Scherbak to be called up and put into an offensive role..and he looks ready to contribute at the NHL level if his play in the AHL this season is any indication. Are the Habs worse right now with Jankowski and Scherbak replacing Plekanec and Pacioretty? Perhaps…but they most certainly won’t be worse in 2-3 years, and sometimes new blood brings renewed enrgy and positive change.

If the right deal comes along, I really think a major shakeup in the dressing room is what’s needed. No…Max hasn’t been a poor captain in the room and off the ice, but I don’t think he is leading by example on the ice, and it is affecting the team in unseen ways. Deal him while his value is still pretty decent given that he has more than a year remaining on his cheap contract.

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  • Angelo Palucci says

    December 21, 2017 at 9:51 pm

    I think if MB moves Pacioretty he needs something more guaranteed coming back (i mean if such a thing exists). Jankowski has been a little slow to round out and as you say Fox may need work and time. Pacioretty has to be parlayed into something more bona-fide. Pacioretty may be following along the same path of a James Neal and trading too soon thinking he is a declining asset for some “hope” scares me

    • Grant McCagg says

      December 21, 2017 at 10:08 pm

      Slow to round out? No..Jankowski’s right on schedule for pretty much every collegiate player. He was drafted out of Stanstead College FFS…everyone knew he was raw and would take time..just like Blake Wheeler. You need to be patient. If they were fully proven..the Habs wouldn’t be getting them..it’s that simple.

      • Angelo Palucci says

        December 21, 2017 at 10:28 pm

        Fair enough. Maybe I’m overvaluing Pacioretty.

  • Jakub Biernacki says

    December 21, 2017 at 10:01 pm

    … and Webber as captain after!

    • Job Goulding says

      December 22, 2017 at 6:58 am

      Hell yes as he should be.

  • Job Goulding says

    December 22, 2017 at 6:59 am

    Hopefully, St. Louis is interested too, as I would like their prospects, start a bidding war between them and calgary.

  • Moe says

    December 22, 2017 at 8:39 am

    Great article! If I’m Mtl and that offer was on the table I would take it. But knowing Bergevin he’ll probably trade Pacioretty for Troy Brower and a pick which will amount to nothing because bergevin’s team can’t draft/develop!

    #FireBergevin

    • Jean S says

      December 22, 2017 at 2:47 pm

      Unfortunate comment after reading such a good analysis from Brian Wilde. Your comment belongs in social networks, where people can make unsubstantiated statements! Bergevin NEVER traded elite player for a “ham”. No idea where this comment comes from. Unfortunate, I say.

  • Habz24 says

    December 22, 2017 at 1:10 pm

    Great article grant.patchs days in mtl are over. The stress of captaincy on 67 has crippled his game.hes too shy,i cant see him standing up in the dressing room during a period and yelling,pointing out players who need to do better,cuz hes one of them.thanks for the past production buddy dorval airports thata way.plek played great in the last yr of his last contract too,pleks prime to go,still usefull to a playoff team ,not us. Chuckys great loaded with talent and skill ,just got to stop being a punk azz,yo yo yo kid,and grow the fuck up,stop the partying,and put career first. But keep 27. Price good for ten more years? Hes 30! Injury prone,huge monster contract for 8 more yrs.i can see keeping him 4 yrs at 9 mill,but next ssn 15 mill with bonuses.is price partying with chucky,cuz prices head seems in the clouds some games.whats the drug policy in the league,is there mandatory drug testing,if not sure should be,cuz im sure players are doing it,playing crap,effecting the rest of the team.if ur caught,ten game suspension,no pay ,automatic drug rehab on first offence. I like your calgary,habs trade idea. With the new no slashing,its become well,we dont know whats legal whats not so we wont hit,fight,barely check,hook,hold,slash,its no touch basketball style now.but this has lead to fast fast hockey. Young in 30 plus out.

  • Habz24 says

    December 22, 2017 at 1:20 pm

    Thee worst move that hurt the habs was making patch the captain,then that lead to patch vs pk,thierren didnt like pk,so it was decided keep thierren,trade pk.
    Now just imagine this: is PK was made captain insted of pacioretty,and fire thierren then,keep pk,then trade patch for a good center!! Boom,thierrens gone then,pk captain leads the habs on the ice and off,and that center we get for patch wouldve solved the center issue. Woulda coulda shoulda.

  • Rene Mathieu says

    December 23, 2017 at 9:33 am

    Are Chytil or Thomas other possible options or are they out of reach with Max as a trading chip?

  • Patrick Lavin says

    December 23, 2017 at 11:18 am

    Grant, I love the way you think. Question, does anyone in the Habs organization have a subscription to Recrutes? I would love for management and ownership to have access to the insights provided by you and Brian. Cheers.

  • Halifaxhab says

    December 23, 2017 at 4:49 pm

    The real question is. Is Calgary the team will g to pay the most

  • babbernack says

    December 24, 2017 at 1:05 pm

    If MB was dangling Shergachev out there as trade bait surly he could have gotten a center.

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